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An Interview with Chris Bohjalian
Critically Acclaimed Novelist
Talks about His Life and Work
By Khatchig Mouradian
Chris Bohjalian is the critically acclaimed author of 11
novels, several of which have become New York Times
bestsellers. His novels include Midwives (a
Publishers Weekly Best Book and an Oprah’s Book Club
selection), Before You Know Kindness and The
Double Bind. His work has been translated to 20
languages. Bohjalian graduated from Amherst College, and
lives in Vermont with his wife and daughter.
Bohjalian’s articles have appeared in Cosmopolitan, Reader’s
Digest and the Boston Globe Sunday Magazine. He has been a
columnist for Gannett’s Burlington Free Press since 1992.
In this interview, conducted earlier this month, Bohjalian
talks about his novels and columns, as well as passions and
memories.
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Khatchig Mouradian—You moved to Vermont from New York
after an unpleasant experience involving a taxi. How would
Chris Bohjalian the novelist in New York have been different
from Chris Bohjalian the novelist in Vermont in terms of
inspiration and issues you raise in your novels?
Chris Bohjalian—Novelists talk with an agonizing
amount of hubris about how they found their voice. The
reality, however, is that I did indeed find mine in Vermont.
Vermont is a fascinating microcosm for issues that have
relevance everywhere—the environment vs. development,
alternative vs. traditional medicine, all the baggage that
we bring to gender and sexual orientation—and it is so small
that it is possible to bring these issues to life on a scale
that is human, recognizable and profoundly accessible. For
instance, I would never have written a book about the
literal and metaphoric place of birth in our culture
(Midwives), if I had remained in Manhattan. After all, home
birth isn’t a part of the dialogue. Nor would have I written
a vaguely eco-novel such as Water Witches—and it’s
interesting to note that I wrote that novel in 1993 (it was
published in 1995), years before we were focused on global
climate change the way we are now. It’s not that I am
especially prescient —but in some ways Vermont is.
Even a novel such as The Double Bind, which explores themes
that I would have been likely to come across in New
York—including, of course, mental illness and
homelessness—was informed by Vermont. It was easy to
research the subject at the state psychiatric hospital and
one of the correctional facilities, as well find therapists
and social workers who were available to help me, because we
are just so small. A phone call here and a phone call there,
and I was able to line up the necessary interviews.
Now, I love New York. I get back there often, and half of
Before You Know Kindness is set there. But I believe I have
found subjects in Vermont that are more in keeping with my
strengths as a stylist.
K.M.—How do you decide what issues to tackle in your
novels? Talk about the process of writing a novel.
C.B.—Invariably the inspiration is something in my
personal life: Someone I have met or something I have heard
or something I have seen.
The Double Bind may be as good an example as any. The novel
had its origins in December 2003, when Rita Markley, the
executive director of Burlington’s homeless shelter, shared
with me a box of old photographs. The black-and-white images
had been taken by a once-homeless photographer who had died
in the apartment building her organization had found for
him. His name was Bob “Soupy” Campbell.
The photos were remarkable, both because of Campbell’s
evident talent and because of the subject matter. I
recognized the performers—musicians, comedians, actors—and
newsmakers in many of them.
I write a weekly column for the “Burlington Free Press,”
which was why Rita wanted me to see the photos. She thought
they might make for an interesting story, and she was
absolutely right: I wrote about Campbell in December 2003,
researching his life and accomplishments and why he might
have wound up homeless, and to this day it remains one of my
favorite essays I’ve written for the paper. I had celebrated
Campbell’s talents (which were extensive) and I had reminded
people of the very fine line that separates so many of us
from being homeless. But then I thought I was done with the
subject.
Six months later, in June 2004, I reread The Great Gatsby. I
love that novel. Few writers crafted sentences as
consistently luminescent as Fitzgerald or understood class
and culture and longing as well.
Then I went for a bike ride on a dirt road deep in a canopy
of woods. My wife had heard a story on the radio that day
that advised parents to tell their children the following:
If someone ever tried to abduct them while they were riding
their bikes, they should hold onto the handlebars for dear
life. It’s more difficult to abduct someone and throw them
into the back of a car or a van if they are firmly attached
to their bike. The geometry just doesn’t work.
As I rode, I started thinking about Bob Campbell for the
first time in months, and I was thinking about him in regard
to The Great Gatsby. Why? Perhaps it’s because we always see
The Great Gatsby through a haze of black and white
photographs—Campbell’s medium. And, of course, The Great
Gatsby is a jazz age novel—and Campbell photographed a lot
of jazz musicians.
And so the idea for The Double Bind formed in my head on
that dirt road. I knew precisely how a book would begin
and—for the only time in my life—I knew precisely how it
would end.
Of course, this also meant I know A and Z, but not the 24
letters in between. That meant I had a different set of
problems to solve. I wrote four drafts before I could even
begin to seriously edit it: A Henry James-ian third person
draft; then a first person draft narrated by Laurel
Estabrook (the main character); then a draft with multiple
first person narrators; and, finally, a draft that was third
person subjective—less cold and omniscient than that initial
version. This draft worked in ways the earlier ones hadn’t.
Only then was I able to start refining and tightening the
novel.
K.M.—Women figure prominently in many of your novels.
Talk about the challenge of writing a novel like Midwives
or The Double Bind, where delving into the psyche of the
characters is key.
C.B.—I wish I could say there was a specific process,
but I don’t find writing about women that different from
writing about men. In each case, it’s an act of imagination.
How would a person respond to a specific event or moment?
What is an individual experiencing or thinking? What are
people seeing or hearing?
In the last decade, I have written novels or scenes within
novels from the perspectives of (among others) a midwife, a
transsexual lesbian, a vigorous female senior citizen, an
African-American foster child, a 10-year-old girl, an
18-year-old female Prussian aristocrat in 1945, a young
Jewish man from Germany who has jumped off a train on the
way to a death camp in 1943, and a variety of balding
middle-aged men. I actually found this last category—the
balding middle-aged men who are like me—the least
interesting.
K.M.—Talk about your upcoming novel, Skeletons at
the Feast.
C.B.—This novel is a departure—and it was creatively
the most satisfying thing I have done in my life. (That
doesn’t mean it’s any good or I got anything right—just that
it was a struggle and it was rewarding.)
Back in 1999, the father of a girl in my daughter’s
kindergarten class asked me if I would read an unpublished
diary his grandmother had left behind. His mother had just
translated it from German into English and typed it up.
We’re good friends, and so I was happy to take a look at it.
The diary chronicled this woman’s life on a massive estate
and farm in East Prussia, and there was a lot in it that
fascinated me—especially the desperate journey the women
made in the last months of the Second World War to reach the
British and American liners ahead of the Soviet army. I
shared it with some editors, but there weren’t any takers.
Years later, in 2005, I read Max Hastings’ Armageddon, his
non-fiction account of the last year of the Second World War
in Germany, and I kept coming across references to scenes
that were familiar. And then I realized why: I had read of
similar occurrences in that diary six years earlier. I asked
my friend if I could see it again. When I reread it, I
decided I wanted to write a novel set in the period, and
thus began some of the most intense research (and writing)
of my professional career.
Skeletons at the Feast is a love story—a love
triangle, really, set in Poland and Germany in the last six
months of World War Two.
The characters? There is 18-year-old Anna Emmerich, the
daughter of Prussian aristocrats who were originally pleased
when their massive estate once more became a part of Germany
in 1939, but who discovered over the next five years what
Nazi management really meant for their rural district.
There is her lover, Callum Finella, a 20-year-old
prisoner-of-war who was brought from the stalag to her
family’s farm as forced labor. And there is a 26-year-old
Wehrmacht corporal who the pair know as Manfred—but who is,
in reality, Uri Singer, a German Jew who managed a daring
escape from a train bound for Auschwitz, and who has been
sabotaging the Nazi war effort ever since.
The novel chronicles the longest journey of their lives:
Their attempt to cross the remnants of the Third Reich, from
Warsaw to the Rhine if necessary, to reach the British and
American lines.
K.M.—We discussed the role Vermont played in your
work. What about the role your parents and extended family
played, and the role your wife and daughter play now? How do
they inform your work?
C.B.—My mother passed away in 1995. And my parents—my
father, of course, since 1995— have lived thousands of miles
away since 1988. Certainly my father is proud of me. My
mother was until she died. But I wouldn’t say they were
instrumental in my decision to become a writer. They were
loving and supportive and literate —everything a child could
want from parents. But they were not a conscious factor in
what I do or the subjects I choose for my fiction.
My wife and my daughter, however, play critical roles in my
work. My wife is a wondrous and patient editor: She, along
with Shaye Areheart (my editor at Random House), are the
first two readers of all that I pen. I value my wife’s
judgment enormously.
And being a parent has monumentally changed what I write.
Look at novels such as Midwives and Before You Know Kindness
and The Buffalo Soldier. Being a parent was pivotal to them.
They wouldn’t exist if I hadn’t been blessed with my
daughter. And the little girl in The Law of Similars? Well,
that is my little girl at three and four.
K.M.—Talk about memories from your youth that you
cherish most.
C.B.—I had a classically 1960s/1970s suburban
childhood. I grew up in a variety of Cheever-esque
dysfunctional suburbs just outside of New York City, (with a
three-year detour to Miami, Fla.). When I read Peter
Balakian’s Black Dog of Fate, I saw echoes of my own
childhood.
We also moved a lot, however, and in one period I went to
four different schools in four years. And so while my
childhood wasn’t bad, it didn’t revolve around great friends
once I finished 6th grade. The fact is, my friends changed
by necessity almost every year from 7th grade on.
My favorite memories, in no apparent order, are:
Playing Little League baseball in Stamford, Conn.;
Reading Johnny Tremain and To Kill a Mockingbird and April
Morning for the first time;
Visiting my grandparents in Tuckahoe, N.Y., and listening to
Leo Bohjalian—my grandfather—play the oud, after losing to
his wife in pool. I can still smell my grandmother’s beregs;
Organizing baseball cards in my living room before
thunderstorms;
Flying anywhere on airplanes;
Being scared silly by the following movies: “The Birds,”
“The Haunting” and “Psycho.”
K.M.—You have been writing a column for Burlington
Free Press for almost 17 years now. Talk about that
experience.
C.B.—I enjoy writing the column. Otherwise, I
wouldn’t do it. I usually write it at the end of the week,
and it’s a nice respite from my fiction, which can be rather
dark. That doesn’t mean that I don’t address serious issues
in my column on occasion: I do. I have, for instance,
written about the death of my mother, global climate change
and the war in Iraq. But usually it’s an opportunity either
to explore something personal or something that makes me
smile.
And while people tell me that it must be a lot of pressure
to turn out a column every single week, it really isn’t.
It’s a lot less pressure than a novel. The secret? I try
never to lose sight of the fact that a few hours after the
column runs in the newspaper on Sunday morning, it is either
helping to light a fire in a wood stove or lining the bottom
of a cat’s litter box.
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